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Revere Ware deep well cooker

Reader Richard contacted us to identify an item.

A few years ago someone else asked us to identify a similar item and we were able to determine it is a Revere ware deep well cooker.  Here are a couple of references to it in various Revere Ware publications.

The deep well cooker dates back to somewhere in the early 1940’s.  How exactly it is used isn’t entirely clear.  Richards appears to fit quite nicely inside his bale handle pot, which make me think you would use it like a double boiler of sorts such that the heat applied to the bottom via the stove would spread out and cook from the bottom and the sides.  However, our own photo guide (assembled by a gentleman who is sadly no longer with us to clarify) states:

Deep Well Cookers (used in special stove-top “heat pits”) were common in 1930’s kitchens. However, post-war changes in cooking habits, stoves with smaller cook tops, and sealed ovens made them obsolete. Both items were discontinued by the early 1950’s.

Here is an example of such a stove setup:

My beautiful picture

Apparently these deep wells had heavily insulated sides that I’m guessing would cause the heat to surround the pot and cook from the sides as well as the bottom. Additionally, some of them had control knobs would allow for a timed period of high heat after which the control would automatically switch to low for a long simmer.

From all the discussions I found related to deep well cookers, it seems pretty clear that they were generally used in these stoves with a deep well.  But seeing Richards’s deep well insert inside the bale handle pot makes me wonder if the double-boiler type setup might provide much the same effect. And the way the bale handle attaches to the pot, such that it flares out which just-so-happens to create the perfect amount of clearance for the deep well insert, really makes me wonder if this wasn’t an intentional use.

I’d love to pick one up someday and try it out.  My wife used a vintage (avocado green) crock pot for many years and now is in love with her Instant Pot.  If the water bath works, adding this to our kitchen would great.

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Amazon.com product listing update

We’ve started relisting some of our products on Amazon.com.  As we relist items there, we are adjusting our listings to accommodate the increases in risk and difficulty that selling on Amazon.com has acquired in the last few years.

We want to accommodate customers that prefer prime shipping and not having to buy from a small independent seller they don’t know (it’s ok, we don’t take it personally).  But Amazon.com in their quest to be come everything to buyers, has become somewhat of a snake pit for sellers.  We’ll do our best, but buying our products on Amazon.com might be a little less convenient and a little more expensive.

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Selling it, eBay edition

Consumer Reports, on the last inside page of every print magazine has the Selling It section that shows ridiculous advertisements.  It has always been my favorite part of the magazine.  For example.

I came across some eBay listings that fit nicely into this theme.  See anything wrong with our first listing?

Which is it, new or used?  It looks a bit used to me.

In our second listing, the seller decided that providing an example of a suggested use might help sell the square skillet.

And she nicely clarifies:

The USDA Choice Rib Eye and USDA Rubber Sirloin not included.

 

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Say goodbye to the eBay drop shippers

We’ve never been fond of the people who sell our products on eBay by drop-shipping them from Amazon.  They do this by listing our products on eBay for higher then they sell for on Amazon.com, and then when an item sells on eBay, they place an order for it on Amazon.com. But they just cut and paste our product information, which misses any updates, and don’t provide any support. There were 160 different listings of our best selling parts on eBay at one point.

But now that we’ve delisted our products from Amazon.com, all of the listings for our products on eBay are gone.  I can’t say we are disappointed.

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We’ve pulled our parts from Amazon.com for the time being

While Amazon.com has taken over more and more of our overall sales over the last 10 years, it has become a more difficult and frustrating place to sell over that time.

  • They now restrict access to any customer information, so we have to ask customers just to send them a replacement or missing piece.
  • Under many circumstances, we aren’t allow to even contact our customers
  • Their no-questions-asked return policy leads to lots of people who buy the product without reading the information and then return when it doesn’t work which causes constant product de-listing.  We have something like a 10% overall return rate at Amazon.com vs perhaps 1% on our own website.
  • Their review system promotes people who buy without reading the information we include on the listings to leave negative reviews like “didn’t fit”.
  • Some of our listings have been changed by malicious parties
  • We don’t have full control over our listings despite being the product manufacturer and the only ones that sell the products
  • Our products can be  hard to find in search results at times, we believe because Amazon wants to push people to use their advertising system, which, from our experience increases costs without increasing sales.

But what really takes the cake is some serious customer abuse we’ve experienced over the last few weeks, that was made possible by some of the above Amazon.com policies.  We’ve reported this to Amazon.com, in the hopes that they will take action, possibly by terminating the customers account. But we’ll still take the hit.

This has made us question selling on Amazon.com at all, which would be a bummer for everyone that likes to take advantage of free Prime shipping.

Our own website will be the only source for Revere Ware replacement parts for the time being.

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New old stock, at a price

We found a bunch of new old stock Revere Ware on eBay today.  It isn’t cheap, but if you want to start with a brand new collection, you’ve hit the jackpot.

First up is this large very complete set:

For your consideration is NEW Real Vintage Revere Ware Copper Clad Pot set from pre 1968.  I removed all items to unwrap, inspect and photograph.  Not going to run across one of these again.  This #1400 set titled ” KITCHEN JEWEL CHEST” contains a total of 18 items:

1 Quart Sauce Pan with Lid
2 Quart Sauce Pan with Lid
3 Quart Sauce Pan with Lid
4 Quart Sauce Pan with Lid
6 inch Skillet with Lid
10 inch Skillet with Lid
6 Cup Percolator (5 parts)
Special DeLuxe Hanging Rack!
The coffee percolator is beautiful and I’d never seen the hanging rack before.  Being all new it’s a pleasure to see.
This box has been in storage for 50 years and not in great shape but the pans are!  Note the real storage patina on the bottoms.  Was going to polish but a collector may want them in real original condition.  I will ship in original packaging and add to it.  Please ask any questions before bidding. If you want to see something in particular please let me know.

Next is a couple of 6″ skillets:

Lastly, a small sauce pan.

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Tole Revere Ware percolator

I’ve never heard of Tole painting before coming across this very unique Revere Ware coffee pot on eBay.  According to Wikipedia:

Tole painting is the folk art of decorative painting on tin and wooden utensils, objects and furniture. Typical metal objects include utensils, coffee pots, and similar household items. Wooden objects include tables, chairs, and chests, including hope chests, toyboxes and jewelry boxes.

It’s certainly interesting and unique, but I don’t think my wife would want it displayed prominently in the house.

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Revere ProLine

Given the iconic copper bottom Revere Ware lines longevity and prevalence among Revere branded cookware, that has been our main focus in terms of replacement parts and information.  I’ve heard of the ProLine line of cookware, but haven’t known much about it.

Reader Jim brought some interesting Proline information to our attention.  He has been tracking ProLine auctions on eBay for some time.

Take for example this Proline roasting pan, that sold for$1,000.

That’s a pretty astounding price for a piece from a line I haven’t paid much attention to.  I believe it is the highest price for ANY Revere piece I’ve ever seen.  Jim writes:

Well, it totally depends on the item – Proline came to my attention in 1999 – my Grandparents had always sworn by Revere Ware pans, and most of my Grandmothers siblings were Revere-ware owners from the 40s-50s onward. I was in college in 99, but set aside a whopping $240 to purchase the standard “10-piece set” from a Revere Outlet store in North Bend, Wa. That set followed me through college, and after, into my life today. About 4-5 years ago, my wife asked me if I wanted to replace it with an All-Clad set, and I started learning more about the available options on Revere Ware Proline in the secondary market, just to compare – I also discovered your site.

I decided to expand my current set, and for less than the price of the All-Clad set, I’ve acquired quite a pile of items. So, some items sell for a premium, and some don’t, and it totally seems to depend on what was commonly sold new – Premium items: Round Griddle, 8 and 10qt Stock pots, Wok, and the 2qt sauce pan (with slanted sides) – and of course that roasting pan. I have an ebay saved search informing me of any Proline that comes up, and the items I just mentioned are semi-rare to very rare. Anything in the 10-piece set is typically NOT selling at a premium, particularly the 8″ skillet, 10″ saucepan, steamer basket, etc. You can locate 10-piece sets NIB easily enough, and for a price-point equivalent to the original price, or a bit over. On the other hand, if you had an 8 or 10qt stock pot, the griddle, the wok, etc. AND it was NIB, I believe you’d have something to sell at a premium.

HOWEVER…NOTHING, that would sell at close to that Roasting Pans Price – so far….;)
Here’s what our  Photo Guide has to say about ProLine:
1989 – The first completely new Revere/Corning product was brought out – ProLine – made of a very heavy gauge of 18/10 stainless steel with a copper disc bottom faced with stainless steel to provide even heating and unusual “wire” handles which were designed by Richard Gregor of Corning. It was first made at Clinton, but by 1994 production was shifted to Thailand. By 1999, Revere moved production to Korea, and changed from the original stainless steel/copper disc to hard anodized aluminum clad stainless steel, with glass lids replacing the original stainless. Arbitrary design changes made to existing lines became typical of Revere management decisions through the 1990’s, steadilly damaging customer brand recognition of Revere products.
After learning more about the ProLine line of Revere cookware, I’m with Jim; this sounds like surprisingly good cookware given the era that Revere Ware produced it and would probably hold up pretty well by today’s standards.
Here is a link to search for “proline revere” on eBay.
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